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8/30/2022 8:59 pm  #326


Re: RIP, Famous person

I honestly thought he was long gone already
Mikhail Gorbachev


The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity  Amelia Earhart
 

8/31/2022 5:33 am  #327


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Same.


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

8/31/2022 5:57 am  #328


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I wonder to what extent his ideas still live?


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

8/31/2022 7:25 pm  #329


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Gorbachev was one of those people who could see reality beyond the emotions that most use for knowledge.  He was clearly politically incorrect.  And entirely accurate in his analysis of reality.

Some facts that most fail to learn.  The Russian economy in those maybe seven years after he took power was not of his doing.  Since economics today is created by what happened four and ten years ago.  He simply got blamed for a serious economic downturn created by his predecessors.  It was inevitable in an economy where innovators are at the mercy of top management - the central committee of the party.

It did not help that Russians really had little grasp of free market economics.  And (unfortunately) too many parts of the Russian economy listened to business school graduates who foolishly kept preaching that only profit matter.

Things could have been better had American invested in Russia so much as Americans invested in Germany and Japan after WWII.

Yeltsin saved Gorbachev's life.  Russia still had too many Donald Trump type thinkers whose first purpose in life was to maximize personal gain.  Many who live in the ethersphere for too long (even the best of people) lose touch which others who could be the future of their nation.  So lose touch as to not understand what the little people (the power of a nation) really need.

Gorbachev tried.  It could have brought Russia into the EU as a productive nation for the world.

However also appreciate the other side.  The west is not so innocent.  Having no adversary to keep Americans honest, suddenly too many extremist  Americans with too much ego saw the world in terms of their emotion.   America saw a wrong (created in part by American mistakes).  Then lead an international rescue of Kuwait.  Extremists (who claims America could not rescue Kuwait) suddenly discovered a new found righteousness.  20 years later would attack (Pearl Harbor) a nation for no good reason.

And so inspired a new cold war.

Extremists (having discovered power they did not know existed) arbitrarily used "only we are always right" reasoning to justify attacks on any other nation.

Had we truly worked with Gorbachev and Yeltsin, then Putin (communism dressed in a different uniform) might not have existed.  But then what we did (ie to Saddam) only justified to Russians what Putin was planning for the next 20 years.

Gorbachev could have been a world class solution.  We cannot entirely blame ourselves for a failure to support him.  But we could have been a lot better.  Clinton tried.  George Jr's wacko extremist, in essence, undermines anything Gorbachev could have accomplished.

Among those accomplishments due to Gorbachev is the ISSS.  Russia has just announced they will withdraw from that next year. Without the attitude control systems in the Russian module, the ISSS may become a world's most visible meteor in recorded history.   Created because of what  Gorbachev did.  Destroyed because his vision did not survive.

What was Gorbachev's thinking in the last years of his life?  Curiously, much of what we know comes from Khrushchev's granddaughter.
 

 

9/08/2022 12:47 pm  #330


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The Queen is dead.  Long live the King.

King Charles.  I never thought I would see it.

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9/09/2022 6:51 am  #331


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Named for a dog that should never have been revived, bad omen.


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

9/09/2022 11:30 am  #332


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I wonder if Charles will step aside for his humorless, Victorian son.

 

9/18/2022 8:59 pm  #333


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That guy who was in that thing:

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Henry Silva was 95.
 


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9/30/2022 4:17 pm  #334


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William Rivers Pitt, 50, was the a founder and lead journalist for Truthout web magazine.
His was a true and gentle voice.  He leaves a nine-year-old daughter

 

9/30/2022 5:52 pm  #335


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Artis Leon Ivey Jr.

AKA

Coolio

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Coolio_at_The_Great_GoogaMooga_Festival_%28cropped%29.jpg/450px-Coolio_at_The_Great_GoogaMooga_Festival_%28cropped%29.jpg

 


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9/30/2022 7:06 pm  #336


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I heard the dude's mission was to wring every dollar he could out of his b-grade celebrity status, to make sure his family would be set. Age 59, cardiac arrest. He does have a pretty packed IMDB.


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9/30/2022 10:26 pm  #337


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To be fair... it was cardiac arrest in the bathroom of a friend's house. Far be it from me to speculate, but I'm gonna speculate there were drugs involved.

 

10/01/2022 7:14 am  #338


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If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

10/01/2022 11:36 am  #339


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I need someone to tell me how that is music.

 

10/01/2022 11:48 am  #340


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How isn't it?  Gangster's Paradise is great music.  If you need to divorce it from any "gangsta" associations, Weird Al's version is also excellent, using the same music.


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10/01/2022 3:07 pm  #341


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I really don't want to listen to any more of it just for particulars to argue.
I found it cacophonous and grating on my ears. 

 

10/01/2022 3:28 pm  #342


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Diaphone Jim wrote:

I need someone to tell me how that is music.

Well, Jim, that was an impromptu, unrehearsed, group sing-a-long in somebody's living room.  I would imagine that your favorite song would probably sound equally shitty in the same circumstances.  Or in someone else's opinion.

For the unwashed:




That's what it's supposed to sound like.

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10/02/2022 12:07 pm  #343


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Do you listen to that more than once?

 

10/02/2022 6:12 pm  #344


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Dude just stop.


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

10/02/2022 10:32 pm  #345


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^WHS


The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity  Amelia Earhart
 

10/03/2022 10:31 am  #346


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What they both said. Please.


I Love my country, I fear the government.
 
 

10/04/2022 6:53 pm  #347


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TNW, you living, breathing PSA, you.

Never stop bein you, man.


Be Just And Fear Not
 

10/04/2022 7:55 pm  #348


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Loretta Lynn might be more up your street.  Now there's music I wouldn't listen to twice.   Or once if I can help it but, ya know, horses for courses.  I'm not a huge rap fan either, but Gangster's Paradise is pretty epic and I'd listen to that any day over cuntery music.

90. COD: prob old.


The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity  Amelia Earhart
 

10/05/2022 8:01 pm  #349


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BigV wrote:

TNW, you living, breathing PSA, you.

Never stop bein you, man.

I shall endeavor to do so, for as long as I can.https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/smile.png

 


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10/06/2022 11:25 pm  #350


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Petite flower and love goddess Judy Tenuta, 72, ovarian cancer

 

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