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    6/14/2021 11:43 pm  #1

    xoxoxoBruce
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    HMS Invincible

    The British Navy has a habit of recycling ship names over and over again. Invincible is one of them.


    You don't suppose those artifacts could end up on a small slate island in Scotland?




    And that's only 2 of the HMS Invincibles, the 7th is an aircraft carrier.
     

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    6/15/2021 6:06 pm  #2

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    Re: HMS Invincible

    Speaking of aircraft carriers...

    This magnet, a module for the ITER, is strong enough to lift an entire aircraft carrier, about 100,000 tons.

    WOW.

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    6/15/2021 10:10 pm  #3

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    Hydrogen fuel. What happens when it says "Feed Me"?
    Burning at 1,000,000°C how do you keep it from burning it's way out for a hydrogen hunt?
    How far from the million degree heat does the magnet have to be to not melt?
    How much damage would a million degree plasma ball do to children and other living things?
    Oh wait, it's just France... nevermind.

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    6/16/2021 4:12 pm  #4

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    Re: HMS Invincible

    I didn't realise there was a classification system for Royal Navy ships which is slightly embarrassing as one of my favourite pictures is 'A First Rate Taking in Stores' by J M W Turner.



    It’s simply the contrast between the bulk of the warship sitting unmoved and the smaller vessels contending with the choppy waters that appeals to me.

    I’m no art connoisseur (as if you couldn't tell) but my one criticism is that the bow is truncated, which doesn’t sit quite right with the composition as a whole

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    6/16/2021 5:34 pm  #5

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    From what I read the ships of the line First Rate, were only sailed in summer and only in the channel. They couldn't be trusted in heavy weather or open ocean because they were too top heavy and bad handling. About 1750 with the capture of the Invincible and a couple ships from other countries, they learned how to build a First Rate ship that was actually seaworthy. From then on they kicked ass and took prisoners, but the third rate ships still did much of the fighting. The Navy was probably more willing to risk a third rate than the big boys.

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    6/16/2021 7:14 pm  #6

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    Any numbers for how many of each 'rated' ship existed then?

    Where would the USS Constitution appear on that list?\

     

    6/16/2021 8:44 pm  #7

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    100,000 TONS PEOPLE,

    One magnet.

    Come on.

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    6/17/2021 10:46 pm  #8

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    tw wrote:

    Any numbers for how many of each 'rated' ship existed then?

    Where would the USS Constitution appear on that list?\

    The USS Constitution with 52 guns and 400 crew(+55 Marines) would fall between 3rd and 4th rate I guess.
    No idea how many ships the Brits had except very few First Rate probably never more than 4 or 5 as they were show boats.

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    6/17/2021 10:48 pm  #9

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    I was once told a gallon of gasoline had sufficient energy to lift an aircraft carrier five feet out of the water.  Never did see any numbers that would confirm or deny that.

    Carrier with or without its full complement?  Strong enough to lift a carrier how much?  1 meter?
     

     

    6/17/2021 10:58 pm  #10

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    100,000 TONS PEOPLE,

    One magnet.

    Come on.

    And you believe them, sounds like a theoretical calculation to me.
    Not a magnet, 6 electromagnets stacked, with 3.5 miles of superconductor cable.
    That means they could build bigger if they had a reason to I guess.
    Let me know when they lift an aircraft carrier I'd like to see that.
     

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    6/26/2021 9:52 am  #11

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    Old, stale ships lol... Vikings r sexy tho

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