griff wrote:

Maybe this could be moved to politics?

I'm still figuring this place out, and just learned that I can censor individual words and replace them globally on the site with different words.  That's what it looks like anyway.  Crazy.  
 

BBC is making major reports discussing how flagrantly the Donald has been lying in the past 24 hours. Noting well over 20,000 lies he has made only in the past four years.  They bluntly demonstrated to the world how this president hypes lies about a stolen election.  Even demonstrated how one network immediately cut him off in mid-sentence to say he has just lied.  His accusation is not true.

All Europeans news services are constantly reporting what Trump says.  And then following that with statement such as, "That is a lie" or "That is not true".

Trump may be setting a new record for the most lies in a day.  But worse, how many are so brainwashed as to believe anything he says?

An analysis from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation: 

If the President's supporters believe him and dismiss everyone else as "fake news", then his baseless claims about the election being stolen could have very real consequences,

"Baseless" is another term routinely being heard all over the world to describe what Trump says.  Except in places such as Russia, the world is constantly reporting accusations of election fraud are completely baseless. Discussing those lies while bluntly noting on one fact supports his lies.

What day in the past 40 years did not Trump not lie?  A challenging question since one might get lucky; discover that one day.

Even major Republicans, such as Trump loyal ally Sen Graham, are publicly admitting evidence of fraud does not exist.  The president is not the only one lying.  Don Jr is also quoted as lying.  Apparently lying is routine in that family.

He posted lies about the election on Twitter and Facebook.  What will social media do?  They are much less responsible.  Both only labeled those outright Trump lies about 'winning the election despite massive fraud' as "misleading".  Those media sources demonstrate why Russian hackers could so easily brainwash so many Americans.  Social media still will  not label outright lies as lies.  YouTube is even worse.  BBC notes social media's inability to demand honesty.  Trump was permitted to post lies about voter fraud routinely in April on social media without any challenge. They would not even call it misleading - when not one fact justified his intentional lies.  

Trump said mail-in balloting is fraudulent.  But he and his entire family voted by mail-in ballots.  So who participates where fraud is suppose to exist?
 

Last edited by tw (11/06/2020 10:29 am)

Undertoad wrote:

That is a lie. They were absentee ballots, a concept which preceded the entire mail-in system. They might be mailed, but don't have to be.

Semantics.  Mail-in ballot or one put into those ballot boxes - either it is called 'voting at the poll on election day'.  Or it is any other' pre-election day' vote.  All described by an general expression "mail-in ballots".  Trump accuses all voting, not performed on election day in voting booths, as fraudulent. His family also voted by this method that he falsely accuses as fraudulent.

Change the expression from mail-in to whatever you want to call it..  Trump still lies.  Calling it corrupted by Democrats  to steal the election - without even one fact.

Trump constantly says he won the election - without even one fact or number that says so.  Just another example of how many lies he now makes every day.

Inauguration Day will be telling.  Can a scumbag admit defeat?  Will his narcissistic personality disorder let him admit reality?  A challenge so severe that he might even suffer a mental breakdown? Or do something else (even corrupt or immoral) that no other president has every done.  Since neither honesty, tradition, nor humility was ever Trump., 

I find all this quite entertaining.