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11/18/2023 9:53 am  #1


The A's, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Pete Rose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson

Joseph Jefferson Jackson (July 16, 1887 – December 5, 1951), nicknamed "Shoeless Joe", was an American outfielder who played Major League Baseball (MLB) in the early 1900s. Although his .356 career batting average is the third highest in the history of Major League Baseball (MLB),[1] he is often remembered for his association with the Black Sox Scandal, in which members of the 1919 Chicago White Sox participated in a conspiracy to fix the World Series. As a result, Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis banned Jackson from baseball after the 1920 season. During the World Series in question, Jackson had led both teams in several statistical categories and set a World Series record with 12 base hits. Jackson's role in the scandal, his banishment from the game, and his exclusion from the Baseball Hall of Fame have been fiercely debated.

Pete Rose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Rose

In August 1989 (his last year as a manager and three years after retiring as a player), Rose was penalized with permanent ineligibility from baseball amidst accusations that he gambled on baseball games while he played for and managed the Reds; the charges of wrongdoing included claims that he bet on his own team. In 1991, the Baseball Hall of Fame formally voted to ban those on the "permanently ineligible" list from induction, after previously excluding such players by informal agreement among voters. After years of public denial, Rose admitted in 2004 that he bet on baseball and on the Reds.[2] The issue of his possible reinstatement and election to the Hall of Fame remains contentious throughout baseball.

Two brilliant players banned from baseball due to gambling accusations. Now MLB has approved moving the A's to Los Vegas. This follows the NFL Raiders move there and the NHL Golden Knights expansion and interesting immediate success.Gambling ads are flooding the airwaves, young men continue to play sports, and referees continue to be human. As long as gamblers remember that sports are entertainment not competition that's ok?
 

Last edited by griff (11/18/2023 9:54 am)


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

11/18/2023 10:32 am  #2


Re: The A's, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Pete Rose

I don't approve of the recent wave of permissive gambling laws that have casinos popping up everywhere.  And the advertising.  I know blah blah blah freedom, but people are addicted and it's destroying their lives.  The casinos have deep pockets and I'm sure the donations to lawmakers had a lot to do with it.

 

11/18/2023 12:13 pm  #3


Re: The A's, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Pete Rose

There are some good things about capitalism. John Fisher is not one of them.

 

11/18/2023 4:28 pm  #4


Re: The A's, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Pete Rose

I'm an old man yelling at clouds...


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
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11/20/2023 4:48 pm  #5


Re: The A's, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and Pete Rose

History was long ago that we are now doomed to repeat it.

Getting high on crack and fentanyl is also a destructive activity.  Just like gambling.  But since both enrich the right people, then we approve.  Does not matter what you feel. What only matters are the people who decide this stuff is good.

The world is people who advance mankind and others who think the purpose of everything is profits.
 

 

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