Unfortunately, yes. It cropped up in my youtube and reddit feeds despite me not keeping up with current events. So I learned that the entire human race is united in intensely hating Amber Heard for being an abusive, manipulating psychopath, and THEN--

I happened to search for this in the regular "news" and THERE-- I learned that "diehard Johnny Depp fans" are "mocking an abuse survivor" because "they're confused between liking the actor and his famous characters" or it's "internalized misogyny" or a "backlash against cancel culture" and the media is literally PHOTOSHOPPING tears onto her lying, no-acting face. The media is sh!tting the bed because they backed the wrong horse and can't just say-- 'me too' was important, and many learned that more women than we thought were abuse survivors, and therefore more men than we thought are abusers, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN that "all men bad" or that every situation should be viewed through the lens of every woman being a spokesperson for the message of the movement, especially when the particular woman IS THE ABUSER. And EVEN IF we're uncomfortable with a high-profile domestic abuse case being possibly misused or misinterpreted in a way that is potentially harmful to women at large, we can't just say, "he did it, she's the victim LA LA LA LA LA" with our fingers in our ears. Have some fvcking nuance.

Absolute sh!tshow, I've never seen the human race more united in agreeing on something, and the media is like, way out in left field.

I've typed a long post about this and then deleted it several times before you asked.
 

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Just got home and saw a little bit of her cross-examination, it makes me sick to my stomach but there is some consolation that everyone is seeing it, everyone understands what they are watching.

Only person who will say anything close to reality is the judge. Do not know why anyone would waste any time listening to so many who have an agenda or emotions.

I did everything I could to ignore the OJ Simpson trial.  Too many emotions overrode facts.  To have facts during that trial meant spending many hundreds of hours.  Do not understand why anyone can have an honest opinion without spending that much time.  Or why anyone would waste that much time.

 

Flint wrote:

Let's start a rumor that 'In The Air Tonight' by Phil Collins was written from the perspective of Johnny Depp, and in 20 years people won't realize that the timeline doesn't make sense.

Love it

Some of the coverage in legacy media is really infuriating. Particularly on the left - which is very disappointing. 

I remember when the UK was considering allowing cameras in court about 15-20 years ago - and I was totally against it.  I have long been against allowing cameras in because of the potential for their presence to impact on trial. Now I have completely changed my mind. Had I not seen the live coverage, had I been dependent on the analysis of new outlets I in which I usually have a fair degree of confidence, I would have been consuming an entirely false and at times very cynically so, analysis of the situation. 

I also feel somewhat aggrieved when I keep hearing the 'its all driven by misogyny  on social media' narrative - sorry, no, 50 year old lifelong feminist here calling bullshit. Yes, there have been some very nasty and misogynistic shit on TikTok and Youtube - but that's hardly a new phenomenon. The channels that promote that shit have latched onto this particular story to feed into their narrative. But that doesn't mean everybody who takes issue with Amber Heard is of or influenced by that ilk.  The majority of what I have seen online is people being very reasonably pissed off that this fake victim has first abused and then destroyed the career of an innocent man while parading herself as a battered woman, fake bruises and all. 

 

I think what shocked me this time is that it was a court proceeding they were reporting on. I expect a degree of bullshit, partisan nonsense when reporting on politics - but I expect reports about court proceedings to be mostly accurate and based in fact (with disagreements over how to interpret those facts). 

It also really pointed up how utterly out of touch a lot of media people seem to  be about social media, which is frankly bizarre

I haven;t been this mad at traditional ,media since the whole 'Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-semite' shitshow

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