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11/05/2022 4:27 pm  #1


Sleuths needed

Okay, so I have this nebulous anecdote in my memory, which I recall coming from a reliable source at the time, but I don't remember where--and I've been trying desperately to find the historical details and am coming up with absolutely nothing.

The premise was that the editor of a heavy mathematics journal, or a science magazine/newsletter of some kind, immediately knew about the Manhattan Project when it started--or perhaps a different Secret Thing, but I do think it was the Manhattan Project--because he noticed an abnormal number of his subscribers changing their mailing address to Los Alamos within a few weeks of each other.

I've googled every combination of words I can think of to locate the origins of, or any reference to, this story. I will throw myself prostrate at the feet of anyone who can help.
 

 

11/05/2022 4:49 pm  #2


Re: Sleuths needed

Here's a starting point:

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-w-campbell-and-his-los-alamos-subscribers/762361

Mr. S.E. Xobon

ETA: I googled "subscribers changing their mailing address to Los Alamos"

Last edited by Anon (11/05/2022 4:56 pm)

 

11/06/2022 7:49 am  #3


Re: Sleuths needed

I feel like I heard that story as well, but timeline wise wasn't Oak Ridge first? Some podcast maybe.

Interesting photos:
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2012/06/the-secret-city/100326/
This rabbit hole is pretty serious.
 


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

11/06/2022 8:02 am  #4


Re: Sleuths needed

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/23/science/manhattan-project-atomic-spy.html
The Soviets were in pretty early.

Their study for the C.I.A. journal reported that Mr. Seborer joined the United States Army in October 1942 and was assigned to the Oak Ridge complex in Tennessee, a giant industrial arm of the Manhattan Project that became its headquarters. He was transferred to Los Alamos in 1944.
 


If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis Brandeis
 

11/06/2022 10:00 am  #5


Re: Sleuths needed

Anon wrote:

Here's a starting point:

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-w-campbell-and-his-los-alamos-subscribers/762361

Mr. S.E. Xobon

ETA: I googled "subscribers changing their mailing address to Los Alamos"

Ah! This is exactly it. This thread includes both the details of the urban legend, and a breakdown of whether it might actually be true. Thanks!

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11/29/2022 12:10 am  #6


Re: Sleuths needed

Coincidentally, I listened to this podcast a while back which explained the story of a Russian spy who basically figured out what was going on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00108h1

 

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