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12/04/2023 9:39 am  #1


Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

No difference.
 

 

12/04/2023 10:30 pm  #2


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

We should bring all survivors of oppression to the USA, house them in our National Parks and support them with our tax dollars. We must take ownership of their situations and hold ourselves accountable for the adverse ramifications of actions taken by our fellow human beings. Oh wait! 

 

12/05/2023 7:54 am  #3


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

If Trump style hate was used constructively, then American special forces were deployed to Israel to massacre the Likud party.  Then solutions would happen.  Then the Killing Fields of Gaza would quickly end. Then Hamas would have no reason to exist. Then a Fifty year war, created by Trump style extremists (god's most evil people) would end..

Only an extremist wants to 'fuck things up".  Therefore promoting hate of immigrants.  Who, otherwise, become a nation's most productive people.  But that would means immigrants have a higher standard of living compared to extremists.  So hate must protect extremists from that reality.

Anon demonstrates how Russian hackers have again ordered him what to believe.  Now that all Fox News disinformation purveyors have publicly admitted to lying.  He needs new sources to promote hate - using lies.
 

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12/05/2023 5:56 pm  #4


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tw wrote:

...Anon demonstrates how Russian hackers have again ordered him what to believe.  Now that all Fox News disinformation purveyors have publicly admitted to lying.  He needs new sources to promote hate - using lies.
 

You seem to be confused. The linked news article didn't come from Fox news or affiliates and it didn't promote hate. Your comments are unequivocally rubbish. 
 

 

12/06/2023 6:26 am  #5


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tw wrote:

If Trump style hate was used constructively, then American special forces were deployed to Israel to massacre the Likud party. ...

Hammas massacred Israelis, Tw wants to massacre more Israelis: Hammas = terrorist, tw = Hammas; so, tw = terrorist.

Just the facts.
 

 

12/06/2023 11:44 am  #6


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Anon wrote:

 Hammas massacred Israelis 

Binary logic used to justify extremist rhetoric.  Hamas killed a small number of moderate Israelis.  Hamas only exists because anti-Israelis, also called Likud, exist.  A small number of deaths compared to genocide that is occuring in Gaza.

But again, the binary logic - disinformation.  All Palestinians are evil.  As if anti-Palestinians called Hamas are also moderate Palestinians - about 2 million.

Nazi like Likud and Nazi like Hamas have zero relationship to moderate Palestinians and Israelis.  Honesty requires one to always separate those four completely distinct groups.  Because of two Nazi like groups - Likud and Hamas - good people suffer.

  Hamas only exists because Likud exists.

Only extremists lumps all Palestinians together.  Extremists  assume moderate (patriotic) Israelis are Likud.  To justify hate.

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12/06/2023 6:51 pm  #7


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

tw wrote:

If Trump style hate was used constructively, then American special forces were deployed to Israel to massacre the Likud party. ...

Humas massacred Israelis, Tw wants to massacre more Israelis: Humas = terrorist, tw = Humas; so, tw = terrorist.

Just the facts. 
 

 

12/06/2023 7:06 pm  #8


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

twhamas wrote:

Hamas killed a small number of moderate Israelis.... A small number of deaths ...

Mass casualty incident.
 

 

12/07/2023 11:50 am  #9


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

In order to end this 50 year war, more than 15,000 innocent Palestinians and 15,000 moderate Israelis must die violently.  Unfortunately that is probably a minimum necessary to end this war.

It is only a "mass casualty incident" if one is emotional.   In that region, it was only a tiny number more dead.  The war continues for so many decades because not enough people have been murdered.

In locations where extremist are in less numbers, then less must die to have peace.  But this region is dominate by anti-humanity extremists.  Netanyahu being one classic example.

Peace was so close and almost happened.  Since the Palestinian authority and moderate Israelis were pushed, so successfully, by Clinton and his staff.  In cooperation with other good people in Oslo.  But extremists successfully subverted it.  Israeli extremists do not want anything that would obstruct the stealing of land in the West Bank - and Gaza.  So tens or hundreds of thousand more must die.

Or moderates rise up and massacre only extremists.  That would also end this 50 years of war.

All too complicated for extremists to understand or appreciate.  Since they are the problem.  And cannot comprehend anything this complicated.  So Anon posts demeaning, irrelelvant comments - like any good extremist.  Rather than discuss reality and honesty.

His three word post demonstrates why all this is too complicated.  It was just another example of violence as usual in that region.

 

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12/07/2023 7:55 pm  #10


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

tw wrote:

...It is only a "mass casualty incident" if one is emotional. ...

Himass.
 

 

12/08/2023 8:54 am  #11


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Anon wrote:

Himass. 

From Oxford.  A mass with full ceremonial including music and incense and typically having the assistance of a deacon and subdeacon.

So much violence is justified by religion.  God orders us who to kill - apparently.

 

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12/08/2023 8:07 pm  #12


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Try again...

Him•ass.

...and it's not the Urban Dictionary definition either. 

 

12/08/2023 8:58 pm  #13


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One can contribute honestty.  Or promote (enjoy) a joke.  Or simply be an ant9-American 'Trump style' extremist.  Insult others to prove his manhood.  In the tradition of Trump supporters such as the KKK, White Supremacists, Nazis, and Fox News disciples.

Patriotic Americans contribute knowledge.  Anti-Americans contribute hate and insults. Which has no relationship to the word 'contribute'. Which one are you trying to be?
 

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12/08/2023 10:27 pm  #14


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Anon wrote:

Mass casualty incident.

tw wrote:

...It is only a "mass casualty incident" if one is emotional....

The World Health Organization defines mass casualty incidents as disasters and major incidents characterized by quantity, severity, and diversity of patients that can rapidly overwhelm the ability of local medical resources to deliver comprehensive and definitive medical care.... 

Mass Casualty Incidents (MCI) are characterized using facts with numbers, not emotions.

tw wrote:

One can contribute honestty.  Or promote (enjoy) a joke.... Which one are you trying to be? 

I don't have to choose:  I can contribute honestly since I know what I'm talking about and I can promote the joke you make of yourself when you don't know what you're talking about.

Heads - I win, tails - you lose.

​Just the facts.




 

 

12/09/2023 7:45 am  #15


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Not enough people died.  Especially on the Israeli side.  So this 50 year war will only continue.  It is that simple.

Classic ethnic cleansing is ongoing in Gaza.

Rather ironic that so many Israelis killed were also known for their generosity towards Gaza residents.  They did not have the Likud hate that keeps this war ongoing.
 

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12/09/2023 11:10 am  #16


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Moderates are lazy. They want others to do the work for them. Moderates are so lazy that they'll allow extremists to flourish if it means they'll have less responsibility. They'e so lazy that they would rather become collateral damage than participate in their own security. It's a waiting game for them. They fall by the wayside until the extremists achieve parity through assured mutual destruction. Then the moderates can rise up again and pontificate on how they know best... in internet forums. Moderates never get the chance to really appreciate what they have; because, with few exceptions, they're not the ones who earned it.

I see it's rerun season in this thread as you're regurgitating some of the same notions you've previously presented. Some people believe that if they repeat lies often enough, they'll become the truth. I don't subscribe to that kind of discussion; so, I'm moving on to other conversations. Bye-bye.

 

2/10/2024 3:18 pm  #17


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Israel is about to complete ethnic cleansing.   The International Court of Justice has all but permitted ethnic cleansing of Gaza to finish.  (South Africa's case against Israel was reported to be full of holes - not very professional.)  Something like 1.2 to 1.5 million Palestinians have been driven into a south west corner of Gaza.  To be driven into the sea or driven into Egypt.  Israeli 'nazi like' leaders have successfully executed their plans.

Israel leaders were informed of the Hama attack weeks in advance.  Apparently they planned for it.  Since that part of israel provided little support or approval on Netanyahu and Likud.   So they took the brunt of a tiny 1000 deaths.  Even most of five radar ballons that what were suppose to monitor the Gaza border were not operational.   Even troops were not notified of the known and implending attack.

Then the resulting attack easily manipulated the emotions.  Just like lies about N Vietnam and Saddam's WMDs so easily rallied American to support lies.  Israel would drive people from an area.  Then even bomb or destroy empty buildings.  Tell Palestinians to evacuate to southern locations.  Then even bomb refugee camps full of Palestinians.  Then deny it or call it an accident.

Only American and moderate Arab nations finally got Israeli extremists to concede to some hostage exchanges.  Israeli extremists have made no other effort to rescue their captured people.  Since those deaths will only make Likud more popular.  Encourage hate of all Palestinians - including those in the West Bank on illegally confiscated lands.  Anon even approves.

Israel is now planning to complete ethnic cleansing.  With a million plus in Rafah, the impending attack will force a stampede either into the ocean (hoping other nations will conduct a mass evacuation) or into Egypt (where even the Egyptian army cannot stop it).

Never for one minute assume Netanyahu and his extremists are any different from Nazis.  Ironic.  Lower level extremists in the Netanyahu government have already stated, in bits and pieces, what will happen next.
 

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2/10/2024 5:47 pm  #18


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Hamas Military Compound Found Beneath U.N. Agency ..

...Part of a warren of tunnels and subterranean chambers carved from the Gaza Strip’s sandy soil, the compound below the United Nations Relief and Works Agency buildings in Gaza City appears to have run on electricity drawn from the U.N.’s power supply, Israeli officials said. 

A Wall Street Journal reporter and journalists from other news organizations visited the site this week in a trip organized by Israel’s military. A tunnel also appeared to pass beneath a U.N.-run school near the headquarters.

The location of a Hamas military installation under important U.N. facilities is evidence, Israeli officials say, of Hamas’s widespread use of sensitive civilian infrastructure as shields to protect its militant activities. Tunnel complexes have also been found near or under some of Gaza’s largest hospitals.

Israel’s discovery of the Hamas operations below Unrwa offices is likely to put further pressure on the agency, which is facing international scrutiny after Israeli allegations that at least 12 of its employees had links to Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack on Israel,....

 

2/10/2024 6:44 pm  #19


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Tunnel were alway beneath most everyones building who were not Hamas.  That propagandas only says half truth are being promoted to create disinformation.

They were tapping most everyone's electricity.  How many would even know a tap exists? Virtually nobody.
 

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2/10/2024 6:51 pm  #20


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Ignorance is not an excuse.

If it looks loke a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... don't be surprised if it gets shot on the first day of duck hunting season.

 

2/11/2024 9:45 am  #21


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

And so the assassination of Netanyahu means attempts will be made to rescue hostages?  Insufficient.  Too many nazi like Israelis exist in that government - which is as evil like Hamas.  Meaning all good people - moderate Israelis and moderate Palestinians - must suffer.
 

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2/11/2024 11:16 am  #22


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

tw wrote:

Tunnel were alway beneath most everyones building. ...They were tapping most everyone's electricity.... 

That establishes the passive complicity of those who didn't declare themselves Hamas. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Anon wrote:

...If it looks loke a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... don't be surprised if it gets shot on the first day of duck hunting season.

This addresses the consequences of passive complicity.

tw wrote:

And so the assassination of Netanyahu means attempts will be made to rescue hostages?..

Where you conjured this up from, I have no idea. No one was referencing Netanyahu in the three preceding posts.

I'm now going to stop posting in this thread since you have demonstrated an inability to follow along.
 
 

 

2/11/2024 1:45 pm  #23


Re: Killing Fields, Rwanda, Burundi, Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing

Those, with contempt for civilization, promote Likud, Netanyahu, and other extremists as if good.  Meanwhile those, who would rather advance mankind, realize that Netanyahu, et al has demonstrated contempt for good (moderate) Israelis, good (moderate) Palestinians, and even for Israeli hostages.  Doing everything (quite successfully) to do ethnic cleansing and steal the land.  As if Hamas justifies harm to all other and good people.

Only killed were 1000 Israelis (who mostly do not matter to Likud because so many there disliked Netanyahu and Likud).  As a result, that justifies a massacre of 30,000 innocent Palestinians.  Mostly by arial bombing.  And the destruction of everything for 2 million innocent Palestinians.  No problem.  Love of right wing extremists justified any massacre in the name of righteousness.  Another example of why extremely religious people create so much hate and destruction.  Would impose their beliefs (and military attacks) on those from other religions.

And so Islamophobia is being touted again.

Carter did something amazing.  He created peace between Egypt and Israel.  And other peaceful settlements.  All that will go away.  Egyptians are not dumb.  Anti-humanity scumbag Netanyahu (who is loved by another enemy of humanity - Trump) will now drive Palestinians into Egypt.  Or into the sea.  With total contempt for something called human rights.

Egypt announced that an invasion of Rafah will mean all peace treaties are null and void.  What right wing (anti-humanity) extremists want will be that destructive.

Anybody who is honest saw this coming months ago. If Netanyahu does ethnic cleansing.  If he does what happened in 1930/40 Germany.  In Rwanda and Brunei.  What happened in the Balkans.  Only right wing extremism justified every such event.

Same people are called Netanyahu and Likud.  Netanyahu, ironically, was raised in Montgomery County in Pennsylvania.  Near where the Cellar was created.

He has so much contempt as to not even try to rescue Israeli hostages.  Will eventually put forth mythical claims that he did.  Reality is Netanyahu, et al are little different than 1930 German Nazis.  Doing ethnic cleansing just like right wing Hutus did to all Tutsis and moderate Hutus.   Apparently Anon approves of such massacres by reciting their propaganda.

Propaganda comes forth in mass - as if promoted by Fox News.  For example, Israel shows weapons hidden behind an MRI in a hospital.  Anyone, who knows anything about that technology, knows that MRI could not operate with steel stored there.  Fake news - just like Fox News reporters had to admit to in testimony in American courts.  Propaganda (just like lies that claimed Saddam had WMDs) is ignored by the educated and informed who are moderates.  Propaganda lies target those who love hate (and the resulting emotional high) promoted by right wing extremists.

Right wing hate justifies the recreation of Arab Israeli wars.  And hates moderates - who believe in things such as civility and human rights.
 

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2/11/2024 1:54 pm  #24


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Anon wrote:

That establishes the passive complicity of those who didn't declare themselves Hamas. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Right wing extremist propaganda.  

We were all complicit when anti-Americans attacked the capital in 6 January - using your reasoning.  Please stop posting right wing extremist rhetoric.  Because Israel intentionally created a slum for 2 million Palestinians, then that justifies hate of all two million Palestinians?  Please.

Anyone can use this emotional rhetoric just like you. We are all guilty of 6 January using your reasoning.  Extremists rhetoric does nothing to enhance honesty.

 

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