Luce wrote:

Flint wrote:

1) Does it exist?

2) Does it improve society, or make it worse?

3) Should you say something when you see it happening?
--a) what would happen if you did..?
--b) what would happen if you didn't..?
 

1.  Of course it exists.

2.  It makes it worse.  Ever had a boss that refused to recognize your expertise in your field, especially if he/she was not an expert in that field him/herself?  I have it on good authority that that's what it's like, all the time.

3.  Of course you should.  
a.  If the front office is smart, nothing.  If they're dumb, you could face some trouble, but that means they're dumb and you should be faxing your resume out anyway.
b.  You could possibly get named in a lawsuit when someone decides to make an issue out of it.

the highlighted part reminds me of the current news item in the WSJ where Dr Jill Biden, former Second Lady and Current First Lady Elect (?) was urged, "Jill... kiddo... drop the pretentious "Dr." honorific.  You're gonna be First Lady for pete's sake.  Nobody should be called Dr unless they've delivered a baby" (I paraphrase, but closely, just goin by memory here).  What a condescending jerk.  I don't know if he should be "canceled" or not, but this essay has demonstrated he doesn't have much to say of interest to me.  Buh-bye.

BigV wrote:

Luce wrote:

Flint wrote:

1) Does it exist?

2) Does it improve society, or make it worse?

3) Should you say something when you see it happening?
--a) what would happen if you did..?
--b) what would happen if you didn't..?
 

1.  Of course it exists.

2.  It makes it worse.  Ever had a boss that refused to recognize your expertise in your field, especially if he/she was not an expert in that field him/herself?  I have it on good authority that that's what it's like, all the time.

3.  Of course you should.  
a.  If the front office is smart, nothing.  If they're dumb, you could face some trouble, but that means they're dumb and you should be faxing your resume out anyway.
b.  You could possibly get named in a lawsuit when someone decides to make an issue out of it.

the highlighted part reminds me of the current news item in the WSJ where Dr Jill Biden, former Second Lady and Current First Lady Elect (?) was urged, "Jill... kiddo... drop the pretentious "Dr." honorific.  You're gonna be First Lady for pete's sake.  Nobody should be called Dr unless they've delivered a baby" (I paraphrase, but closely, just goin by memory here).  What a condescending jerk.  I don't know if he should be "canceled" or not, but this essay has demonstrated he doesn't have much to say of interest to me.  Buh-bye.

It was even worse, really.  The focus of that rant is that she should be happy enough just calling herself "Mrs Biden."

That whole article smacked of incel/MGTOW.

MGTOW is crazy talk, separate ourselves from women? The who will explain things to them? 

In my earlier years I used to be very sexist and misogynistic. In recent years I have tried to become more enlightened, but I am still a little unreconstructed. And yes, I think both those terms are very bad traits which we should aim to consign to the history books.