The Cellar / Craftsman Tools

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 3/25/2023 5:59 am

In my youth the Moore Drop Forge company located across the street from Smith & Wesson made Craftsman tools for Sears.
Making anything shit happens, it's the first rule of the universe.
They had a couple of big bins outside where they would discard bad pieces the inspectors rejected.
Some were not real bad just not good enough.
If some ne'er-do-well were to sneak into the yard at night and snatch a tool or two, they could take it to any Sears store and they would replace it no questions asked... or so I'm told.
Now Sears is gone, Craftsman is kaput, and the last time I was at Smith & Wesson I didn't see Moore's either.

**Posted by glatt** 3/25/2023 8:08 am

I used to love Craftsman tools. The quality definitely changed over the years. The number of clicks in a socket wrench rotation was a dead giveaway.

**Posted by griff** 3/25/2023 10:52 am

I remember walking into Sears with a rusty ratchet my Dad had broken with a long pipe years earlier. I walked out with a new ratchet no questions asked.

**Posted by glatt** 3/25/2023 11:16 am

griff wrote:
I remember walking into Sears with a rusty ratchet my Dad had broken with a long pipe years earlier. I walked out with a new ratchet no questions asked.

This. Except I broke mine with a long pipe.

**Posted by Diaphone Jim** 3/25/2023 11:24 am

I've always thought that guarantee was magic, along with the ones for Snap-on, Proto, NAPA and others.
Of course, those tools seldom failed and felt good to use.
The main thing they did that the guarantee didn't help was disappear.
I snapped a mystery brand 1/2" flex head this week and will buy a better one.
Actually, I broke a 1/2" extension a few weeks ago, too. Toyota strut assemblies are torqued at 160 plus and after 200k do not like to come off.

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 3/25/2023 12:54 pm

I liked the craftsman because the high rent tools were shiny, often chromed, so looked good but when I was up to my elbows in grease and oil the shiny ones would slip. I could still grip the Craftsman as That little bit of rough texture was functional.

**Posted by tw** 3/25/2023 2:20 pm

xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Now Sears is gone, Craftsman is kaput, and the last time I was at Smith & Wesson I didn't see Moore's either.

85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. In this case, an MBA and hedge fund manager. Who was doing what is taught in business schools. Enrich yourself by screwing others. (Trump is another perfect example.)

From 2005, Eddie Lampert drove both Sears and Kmart into destruction by doing what business school graduates are taught. Cut costs to increase profits. Then take obscene bonuses. Lampert further enriched himself by getting Sears Holdings to sell properties to him at distressed prices.

Bill Ackerman used Pershing Square Capital Management to do same destruction to J C Pennys. While Pershing Square reaped $4.5 billion in 2014 alone.

One need only see same in places like DeepWater Horizon. And a recent Norfolk Southern disaster to learn why and where jobs, productivity, and America's strength is being depleted.

Nardelli was paid $200 million to leave Home Depot. Since he was was doing so much harm implementing concepts taught in business schools. Then then bankrupted Chrysler doing same. Is now doing same the a grocery store chain called Acme. Doing what is taught in business schools.

Craftsman is just another example of what business school graduates do to America to enrich themselves as the expense of all others. As Carly Fiorina did to Hewlett Packard.

The purpose of business is now to enrich the Central Committee of the Party at the expense of all others.

Knowning that Craftsman was in its last year, I traded (upgraded) all my Craftsman screw drivers.

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**Posted by TheNeverWas** 3/26/2023 1:35 pm

tw wrote:
85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.

Somebody bump the record player, it's stuck again.

**Posted by TheNeverWas** 3/26/2023 1:42 pm

I think the record is warped, too.

**Posted by tw** 3/27/2023 12:25 am

Reality does not change because it is so difficult to understand.

Extremist hate everything - even reality.

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**Posted by TheNeverWas** 3/28/2023 5:39 pm

tw wrote:
Reality does not change because it is so difficult to understand.

Extremist hate everything - even reality.

I don't hate everything, but, I do hate you.

Thanks for proving my point, though.

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 4/02/2023 1:45 am

TheNeverWas wrote:

I don't hate everything, but, I do hate you.
Thanks for proving my point, though.

No you don't really, he's one of the very few things you can rely on without fail to be predictable. That reliability is a rare commodity these days. Since you know what the speil is you only have to determine if it's relevant to the discussion at hand... which is also rare.

**Posted by TheNeverWas** 4/02/2023 11:34 am

I hate that motherfucker more than you can comprehend.

**Posted by tw** 4/02/2023 12:09 pm

TheNeverWas wrote:
I hate ...

He used that expression even more than Trump. Expression common to nazis and racists.