The Cellar / Religions, So Many Variations

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 3/27/2024 8:56 pm

There are dozens, maybe hundreds of religions around the world.
But from what I've seen there is only a few "types".
The biggest "type" is the our guy had the straight dope from the almighty so we gotta do what he said or else.
But this "type" is split up into which guy the follow, then subdivided more times.
Those subdivisions range from lax except at their religious holidays, to real vehement assholes.
Because of this disparity I'm glad I found out how this happened.

Now you know.

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 4/28/2024 5:23 am

Really, there are...
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**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 5/12/2024 7:43 am

Unaffiliated goes right along with public behavior these day.
Religion was a big help in making people behave due to peer pressure.
People being naughty would try to be sneaky about it to avoid that pressure.
Now without that chance of tsk tsked by peers, they're being naughty in front of impressionable youth
and setting a very low bar for public behavior.

**Posted by xoxoxoBruce** 10/05/2024 3:44 pm

They estimate about 12,000 Gods have been venerated...

I noticed of the top ten Buddhist Gods, #2 is Buddha.?!?

**Posted by Happy Monkey** 10/06/2024 11:36 am

I'm not sure what their "Godrank(tm)" technology is based on. "Lucifer" being the most popular Roman god implies it is just mentions, which would mean that stuff like mentions of the Tom Ellis TV show based on the Mike Carey comic based on the Gaiman comic based on folklore based on the Bible would count towards the Roman god of the morning star.

But Tithonus being ranked higher than Zeus breaks that theory. Who mentions Tithonus?

**Posted by griff** 10/07/2024 6:16 am

Mithras is still being suppressed at this late date, appalling.

**Posted by griff** 10/07/2024 6:31 am

I wonder which gods are most venerated in the US?
Plutus: god of wealth?
Kratus: god of power?
Apate: goddess of deceit?

**Posted by Diaphone Jim** 10/07/2024 10:55 am

McCluhan: God of TV

**Posted by tw** 10/07/2024 11:25 am

Christian values have purged the archives of accurate facts. Missing in all lists is the #1 god - of sex.

**Posted by tw** 11/07/2024 9:03 am

It was always this simple. Religion is a relationship between you are your god. Nobody else need know what that is - or cares. However your religion is never - not once at any time - imposed on anyone else. Otherwise religion is more than a relationship between one person and his god. A fundamental violation of all religions.

The original post is his religion. Nobody else cares. It is never imposed on anyone else.

**Posted by tw** 11/07/2024 3:50 pm

The way I read the question is "What is the purpose of religion?" Which includes (what I consider to be) commandments that apply to all religions. One problem with some branches of Islam (and some extremist Christian religions) is a need to impose their beliefs on all others. The Mormons, for example, were (in some cases) victims of that hatred. And, of course, Jews.

That violates, what I regard as, the underlying principles that apply to all religions.

Early power (success) of religion was to provide basic rules that made possible a civil society. A set of rules so that all types of people could live and work together for the advancement of mankind.

One reason why Islam spread so powerfully back then even into Spain was the belief that other religions could co-exist. Jews prospered under Islamic rule during that period. All part of an underlying purpose: the advancement of mankind.

No matter what is a religion's god, its purpose remains (and maybe this contrary to what religions promoted) the advancement of mankind. Some religions may consider this contrary to putting their god above all else.

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**Posted by tw** 11/08/2024 7:47 pm

So many points. I will address one: race. Many in some "races" have more genetically in common with the other "race" than in their own people. Racism is not about genetics as so many only speculate. Racism is about hate of someone who is different. Many blacks have more in common with whites than those whites have in common with other whites. Color is not race. What language people speak is not race. Height is not race. Eye and hair color is not race.

Racism is only about first impressions. Nothing more.

Race and racism have nothing in common if one is thinking logically. Racism is judging others based only in first impressions. A decision only justified by emotions - not by intelligent thought.

And again, the difference between the brain of a child and the brain of an adult. Two completely different thought centers.

Does not matter that Mormons believe in an ultimate leader. If people where thinking logically. As long as their religion does not violate legitimate laws. Racism was hating Mormons because "(they were devotees of Joseph Smith, and held to single man rule: that was a key in Missouri".

Ironically Amish have a same religious belief. Why do we not hate Amish?

That should never have been a problem if others in Missouri were not trying to impose their religious beliefs on Mormons. Hate of Jews before and after WWII was another the classic example of one religion imposing their religion (emotions based in racism) on another genetically similar race. Only because the victim's religion was different. Classic racism. Hate of another only due to first impressions.

**Posted by tw** 11/09/2024 8:55 pm

IC wrote:
I'm sorry...I don't believe that concept, so I can't address it with you. I would suggest that there is but one "race," the human race.

Which is what I said. So you do not believe the concept but agree with it? The point is that racism is only about hate justified only by a first impression. If a man wears a shirt, racism condemns him. So many people have so much hate because someone might be transgender. And yet that is what many so called 'religious people' do. Impose their religious beliefs on all others. If god intended him to be transgender, then god would have born him that way. Religious extremism. Hate due to what all racism is based in. Judging people only on first impressions. Also called not thinking with a prefrontal cortex.

Religion is also based in faith. IOW I will order you what to believe. And then you have only faith to believe it. No facts. No justification. No consideration for all others. Just faith. Because, as your religious dictator, I order you what to believe. And you have faith.

That is also a violation of religions: a relationship only between a human and his god. To never be imposed on anyone else.

So many variations. Which religions are corrupt? Those that impose their beliefs on others.

**Posted by tw** 11/09/2024 9:00 pm

IC wrote:
So we need to separate the two. One is not "racist" simply because one happens to disagree with another's "religion," anymore than one has to be "religious" to be a "racist." The two are not the same at all.

Not grasped is what was written. Nobody said racist because one happens to disagree with another's religion. Where did that come from?

One is racist because one imposes his religious beliefs on other. But again, religion is only a relationship between one man and his god. Nobody's other religion has any relevance. 'Racism in religion' is when one's religion is more than just a relationship to his god. When his religion is imposed on others, then his religion is corrupt. The classic example of judging another only using first impressions.

**Posted by tw** 11/09/2024 9:10 pm

IC wrote:
Well, that's far too simplistic, I'm afraid. There are a variety of reasons people choose to be antisemitic.

They are not anti-other because some other group is also prosperous. Why not also be anti-another because other people in your religion are prosperous. The fundamental hate - racism - is because their religion (and how they live their lives) is not of your religion. Judgement only based in first impressions.

Why anti-semitic and not anti-another? Because the Jews are a different religion. Then any more reasons to hate are justified. Just another example of one's religious beliefs (or faith) imposed on another.

Again, nobody's religion should have relevance to yours. You religion must always be restricted to a relationship between you and your god. Nowhere else.

Even quoting the bible for political purposed makes one a religious racist. An extremist. Quotes from the Bible are never imposed on anyone else - if one is a good and truly religious person.

**Posted by Clodfobble** 11/10/2024 10:47 am

**Posted by tw** 11/11/2024 3:23 pm

But and again is a fundamental characteristic of every religion. It is ONLY a relationship between one person and his god. It is never imposed on anyone else. And nobody cares what your religion is.

Anything that perverts or corrupts that relationship / that purpose is, in religion, called evil. In advanced societies with just laws, ilegal.

A religion must not violate civil laws. Designed so that all people live in an orderly, stable, and productive society. Since that means a religious belief is never imposed on others. Imposition must never be part of a fundamental and true religion based in high ideals. A definition of the purpose, nature, and characteristic for acceptable religions.