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So many forget (or never learned) from history 30 years ago. When bin Laden was conducting major attacks and killing Americans. Clinton was a moderate. Recognized the threat in the 1900s. Put the anti-terrorism office inside the White House. And still extremists (such as he American ambassador to Yemen) intentionally stifled investigations for a personal agenda. The people who come from where the work gets done were screaming about threats. And so on or about New Years 2000, major attacks on tourists in Egypt, on a major hotel in Jordan, Indian Airline Flight 814, on the LA airport, USS The Sullivans, and in Times Square during the dropping ball. Almost everyone was averted by the 'people who knew'. Suddenly, other parts of government realized a bin Laden threat was serious. When extremists took over, the anti-terrorism ground was move out of the White House. Cheney still considered communism and the Cold War a greater threat. This is why informed citizen learn from news sources such as Frontline. Many facts that many probably forgot. And why 911 could have been averted. Since the people who knew this stuff also knew it was coming.
O'Neil knew it was coming. So he become Security Chief for the WTC only two days before the attack. He knew it was coming. So many who agreed were suddenly replaced. He did not have enough time (or information) to avert it.
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Information isn’t useful unless it’s timely.
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One learns from timely information called Vietnam, Afghanistan, and the "Mission Accomplished" war. To kindly know why America is defeated in Iran.
Back then, information was clearly known. People in top management were subverted facts. Made it impossible to put pieces together. See the bigger picture. That O'Neil clearly saw.
We also know (timely information) that a war with Russia is currently being prepared. One learns from timely and recent history. Russian constantly probes before a massive attack. Probing is constant - even drones flying over Denmark. Constant attacks on things such as fiber optic cables. Learn from timely information from Reuters. That attack is expected to start on Latvia. Which may occur simultaneously with the invasion of Taiwan. That is supposed to happen in or after 2027.
American leadership is as ignorant as it was in 2000 when top management subverted anti-terrorism organizations. Because they were extremists; not moderates. 2001 is timely information if one learns from (to not repeat) history.
Frontline discusses what so many today still do not know about 11 September. And how many other attacks were successfully conducted (or averted) before 11 September. Averted only when top management listened to fact; not to their extremist agenda (ie was not a business schoo graduate).
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Hindsight is 20/20, foresight is legally blind.
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The legally blind (also called extremists) will say anything to avoid learning reality. Foresight exists when one learns (and remembers) lessons from history. Which means only moderates are patriots. Extremist use emotions; not the prefrontal cortex. Then post soundbytes to prove superiority and denials.
Many do not learn from history. Or forgot how incompetent our White House leaders were. Frontline provides a critical and well documented part of that story. Knowledge necessary to be a patriot (educated) citizen. So many even forget many previous attacks that said 11 September was also coming.
Or one can learn from today's events. That say major war is coming if we do not learn from history.
Another incompetent administration is also in denial. Is even leaving us with major munitions shortages. Even the Navy has 20% of the fleet depleted; out of service. With Admirals that were saying so now fired.
O'Neil knew 11 September was coming. So he was forced out. Learn from Frontline.
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Moderates lack cohesion, so divided they fall. Que sera sera.
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Extremists post cheapshots that say nothing honest, informative, or useful. Every patriotic American remembers multiple memos were on George Jr's desk warning that bin Laden was planning attacks on America involving buildings or airplanes. Memos only got one thing wrong. It was buildings AND airplanes.
Extremist did what the emotional would do. Nothing.
When Clinton got a similar warning before 2000, he personally told everyone in government to look for these extremists. Every government department was ordered to expect these attacks. Warnings caused discovery by a lady of the LAX attack (discovered on the Washington / British Columbian border). Averted was an attack on USS The Sullivans. They could not find bombs (believed to have been moved out of Brooklyn) were the attack on Times Square on New Years Eve.. Averted were attacks on tourists in Egypt. Bombing of hotels in Amman Jordan averted. Etc.
Hindsight. When top management works for the little people, then disasters and destruction is averted. As even taught in Apollo 13.
The memo was on George Jr's desk multiple times. A bin Laden attack would involve buildings or aircraft. Nothing was done to avert attacks on buildings or aircraft. But then Cheney and Rumsfeld even tried to blame Saddam. George Jr, on 12 September, personally told Richard Clark to blame Saddam. When extremists denied this, then Peter Jennings put forth a signed affidavit from a General who was standing next to Clark. George Jr ordered Clark to lie. Another example of why an extremist mindset only does bad things. We learn from hindsight.
Even a surrender to the Taliban in Afghanistan was a disaster created by extremists. Who ignored what all generals were saying.
Nixon stuck Ford with the disastrous evacuation of Vietnam. George Jr's extremists did same to Biden.
11 September is about learning from our mistakes. Only extremists then blame moderates. Without even one supporting fact. By never saying why. An example of lies justified only by emotions and cheapshots.
So what did any one extremist in the White House do on 11 September.? The 911 Commission report clearly states that not one White House, Cabinet, or top government official did anything constructive that day. Even the head of the Washington air traffic center, without any authorization, ordered all other air traffic centers across the nation to land all airplanes.
Even Air Force generals, on a conference call with the Secretary of Transportation and FAA commissioner, hung up. To spend time actually solving the problem. Even George Jr, in Air Force 1, could not contact Cheney in the White House. Another story about incompetence obstructing action.
We are suppose to learn from hindsight. And yet, deja vue Iran.
One learns more well documented facts also from Frontline.
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Moderates believe they know what’s best for everyone… including other moderates. They’re too busy trying to one-up each other, attempting to show who’s the most moderate, to present a united front. Moderates have rendered themselves personae non gratae.
If you’re going to cite Clinton, use his proper title - “I Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Woman” Clinton.
Moderates, Bah! Humbug!
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Extremists post empty denials. Do not know how to be a moderate. Since that required thinking and knowledge. Not even one fact to support what is only wild speculation from the limbic brain. Conclusions (demeaning commentary) justified only by hate and insults. Since reality exposes evil found in extremism.
“I Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Woman” is the only disparaging comment? Somehow that is relevant? Yes is one is a sexual pervert. Which is what I will post if you cannot be relevant, logical, intelligent, constructive, and civil.
George Jr had multiple memos on his desk saying bin Laden is planning attacks on America involving planes or buildings. So he did nothing. Apparently he waited for Cheney and Rumsfeld to tell him what to do. Extremist think that was good. Because they were extremists; even repeatedly lied.
He sat in child's chair in Florida. Did nothing after Andy Card said "A second plane has hit the World Trade Center. America is under attack." Waiting for instructions from Cheney, et al. And then tried to blame the entire thing on Saddam. Why? Cheney and Rumsfeld said so. People who come from where the work gets done - ignored but again. since reality contracted an extremist agenda.
What does an extremists here deny? All this. Because it exposes the many lies and hate that justifies extremism. And also demonstrated deja vue Iran.
Only those who are patriotic would learn (or would remember) what happened on 11 September. Because top management did not do their job. View Frontline. To learn why extremists (and their hate) are so anti-American destructive.
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^poor old moderate has-been ranting^
I feel your pain.