I have no problem poking holes in unworkable theory.

Yeah, you haven't.


I have not, as yet, insulted you personally.

Yeah, you have.

Seems to me: we'll just have to agree to disagree.

If I insult you, you will know it.

Already do.

Unimpressive.
 

henry_quirk wrote:

If I insult you, you will know it.

Already do.

Unimpressive.
 

Okay, if that's the way you want it.

glatt wrote:

Luce wrote:

As an aside, got the 2nd Moderna shot on Thursday.  Spent Friday and Saturday wishing I was dead, but back to normal now.

And if that's just the antibody response, I'd hate to have had the real thing.

I've heard the shot Moderna has the harshest reaction.  I wonder if that means it's doing a better job?

It's a purely academic question, because we have little choice in the matter.

No clue.  Pfizer and Moderna seem to be almost identical in effect and side effects.

I don't know how good the actual numbers are  but that trend...

I guess we know what to do with the vaccines meant for our refusniks.

Most everyone I know, who had Moderna, Pzier, and J&J, had only minor to no after affects.  Apparently my immune system is quite robust.  I had a sharp fever and headache after the second dose.  Was totally fine (actually quite full of energy) that next day.

Those after affects are irrelevant.  Since the purpose of that vaccine is primarily to protect the Constitutional Rights of all others.  Especially doctors and nurses.  Only extremists (and adults who are still children) deny reality.

 

A guy I grew up with is in the hospital with COVID. His immune system is compromised from fighting some kind of rare blood cancer which kept coming back so his doctor said not to risk the vaccine. He wasn't doing his road rep job because of the virus but he was still doing his township and school bus contract work. Pete had gotten his parents vaccinated but his bubble was not complete. I initially thought it was a shame that it happened this late in the pandemic but really the virus is going to keep going out here. We'll get a Summer respite but there will be no herd immunity because of our broken politics.

They're saying his oxygen levels are pretty low, this would be a shitty way to go especially after kicking cancer's ass. I was suggesting to Pete pre-vax that I might resist ventilation, she didn't really want to hear that. /rambling

Sorry, Griff. Hope he pulls through.

Bummer, but I still don't want to pay people to get the shots. If they're that stupid fuck 'em, let 'em die out, hopefully before they infect someone who is immune compromised and can't do the shots.

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

Bummer, but I still don't want to pay people to get the shots. If they're that stupid fuck 'em, let 'em die out, hopefully before they infect someone who is immune compromised and can't do the shots.

Yep

He's in a medically induced coma, I didn't get that information before. The guy who told me seemed overly optimistic.

I'm wondering how far off the rural death count is. When they picked up my uncle's body the coroner asked a fireman by phone, "What's it look like?" "Heart attack." Over and done.

Which is fine really, unless you have a public health system looking for good numbers on dementia or poor care. Of course that opens a whole can of worms about end of life care which we are not sophisticated enough to handle apparently.

Is that a rhetorical question?

I'm vaccinated and just have 10 more days until it's in full force.  I know I feel like it's almost over.

I know there are real people behind those numbers, but if I don't have to worry about myself or my vaccinated loved ones, then I feel like it's basically over for me. 

In my mind, it's soon joining the ranks of things like tornados in the Midwest, wildfires in California, rapidly depleting aquifers in the Southwest, and other problems that are bad but have little impact on me directly.