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3/13/2026 11:30 am  #26


Re: Tragedies at Sea

Also OTOH, the "price at the pump" went up on the very day of the US sneak attack on Iran. It will certainly continue to do so.
The oil from the Gulf is months away from being in any pump, especially one in the US.
So any price increase is 100% excess profit to the oil companies. with no cost to them except the pay to the guys that change the signs.
And it will go on months past the situation "improves," if it does.
Big oil and Trump on the same page. Imagine that. 

 

3/13/2026 12:43 pm  #27


Re: Tragedies at Sea

All this is ongoing and will only get worse as both sides demonstrated no strategic objectives.  Everything done only for vague and 'manliness' tactical objectives.

Example: Iran's actions clearly demonstrated no strategic thinking.  All decisions (since the death of so many strategic thinker on 28 Feb) are only wildly flaying out at anyone the local commander 'feels' is the enemy.  And so Iranian local commanders, without any top level direction, are launching attacks wildly on Israel, Jordan, and Persian Gulf counties (from Kuwait to Oman), one of the K-stan nations, and Turkey.  Surprisingly not at Pakistan and Afghanistan.

No attacks have any coorindiated objective.  Successful damage has only made Iran's international position despised in the world community.   137 nations in the UN have voted to condemn Iran.  Even though they are victims here.  And even though all Trump reasoning to unilaterally 'Pearl Harbor' Iran are unjustified.  Iran was at least ten years away from making a ballistic missile.  They had no plans to build an atomic bomb.  Only had components to make a bomb.  That would required at least five years.

Worse, this surprise attack on Iran has changed the minds of many in Iran who did not want the bomb.  They have now learned from North Korea and Ukraine.  Always have atomic bombs so as to not be Pearl Harbored.  Don't for one minute not see whats other nations now see and want.  By learning from Iran leadership's mistake

Where do such fact come from?  Israel.   Whose spy network has massively infiltrated the entire Iranian government.  Because the Ayatollah are so despised in Iran.  Even Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a former president and the head of their anti-spy unit, created to only find Israeli spies, was an Israeli spy.

So what is (could be) Iran's strategic objective?  A much smaller country (Iraq) did massive damage to the Americans).  Whereas that population was about 80% anti-Saddam, that nation then hated Americans.  A strategy that Iranians are probably looking at.

But at higher levels, they do not have (apparently) strategic leadership.  Khamenei's son is apparelty only a figurehead due to a serious lack of leadership.    Which probably would not exist had Qasem Soleimani not been murdered by a low intelligent American president.  A man who, on multiple occasions, had attempted to restore friendship between Iran and America.  Who actually trailblazed for American invaders (Marines) into Afghanistan.  Until some idiot invented lies about the axis of evil.

Interesting are the ships transversing the Strait of Hormuz.  Mostly container ships moving between Oman and UAE.  And tankers with destinations listed as Chinese crews.  One would think major convoys of tankers, surrounded and protected by Aleigh Burke destroyers, could pass through.  But then is the other side of this coin.  America also has no strategic strategy or thinkers.  Nobody in high American office bothered to think through any of this.  Just like in Iran, there is no strategic strategy or people capable of doing same.

Only the ignorant, who see tactical objectives as if strategic (big bombs prove we are righteous) are making decisions on the Ameican side.  Meaning America also has no exit strategy.

Expect these consequences to result in ongoing conflict even in December.  As America continues to do only what Israel wants.  And spend $2 billion daily.  To bomb Iran into the stone age as Israelis also did to Gaza.  And now want Americans to also do to Lebanon.

A very first question that only educated Americans will ask.  What is or could be Iran's strategic objective?  Anyone with any intelligence during any previous war (WWII, Vietnam, Mission Accomplished, Desert Storm) always knew what the enemies strategic objective was.  To then separate domestic liars from moderates (intelligent thinkers).  What is or could be their strategic objective?

And then what are other nations now thinking (reevaluating).

This tradegy at sea is a tiny part of demonstrating how little intelligent thought exists on both sides at highest levels.  And then identifies which Americans do not know and could not even 'ask to learn' any of this.

Last edited by tw (3/13/2026 12:51 pm)

 

3/13/2026 4:27 pm  #28


Re: Tragedies at Sea

If the strategic objective is WWIII, they don’t need an exit strategy… just a survival strategy.

Diaphone Jim wrote:

Also OTOH, the "price at the pump" went up on the very day of the US sneak attack on Iran. It will certainly continue to do so.

People will use less gas, there’ll be fewer emissions, and the birds will have cleaner air to breath not to mention they need that stuff to fly you know.

 

3/14/2026 11:23 am  #29


Re: Tragedies at Sea

Anon wrote:

If the strategic objective is WWIII, they don’t need an exit strategy… just a survival strategy.

Diaphone Jim wrote:

Also OTOH, the "price at the pump" went up on the very day of the US sneak attack on Iran. It will certainly continue to do so.

People will use less gas, there’ll be fewer emissions, and the birds will have cleaner air to breath not to mention they need that stuff to fly you know.

You know, Anon, your retreat to "cleverness" often is a good clue that you wish to obscure points others make.
In this case, it is the immediate and huge profit taking by big oil.  

     Thread Starter
 

3/14/2026 11:36 am  #30


Re: Tragedies at Sea

They’ve always done that. Any little interruption in the supply chain and the price at the pump goes up the next day even though the trickle down cost increases of the interruption would not occur for weeks or months. Price gouging by the oil industry is old stuff and not novel to current events. That’s why it’s glossed over.

 

3/14/2026 2:24 pm  #31


Re: Tragedies at Sea

Diaphone Jim wrote:

 In this case, it is the immediate and huge profit taking by big oil.  

Others, such as Putin, are prospering from a Trump and Netanyahu's war.  Resulting oil shortage has enabled Russia to sell more oil to more countries. At much higher prices.  Even putting Ukraine at greater risk.

Some numbers.  The world is now 20 million barrels a day short of oil  Even at maximum flow, the US oil reserve can only provide 1.5 million barrels.

Professional up to a few day ago said Kharg Island must not be attacked.  So that oil can flow after this conflict ends.  Instead a man with no grasp started attacking Kharg Island yesterday.  That will somehow create regime change?  Meaning oil may not flow for a year after the conflict ends.  He has done what he always does - lie.  Some people love him because he constantly lies.

Obviously the US has no strategic objective.  Did nothing to plan protection of the Straits of Hormuz - an obvious problem.   Is now deploying a Marine invasion fleet to do what he said he would never do.  They will not arrive for 1 - 2 weeks.  Latest 'secret' plan to continue this war for many more months.  At $2 billion a day  To put boots on the ground.  To attack double the number of people in Iraq.

How much was wasted on an endless war in iraq?  What happens when Army troops invade Iran?  That is a new plan for regime change?  The mythical strategic objective.  How militaries are defeated - in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

Mission Accomplished was also about regime change.
 

 

3/14/2026 4:44 pm  #32


Re: Tragedies at Sea

tw wrote:

…What happens when Army troops invade Iran?… 

They get combat pay so they can afford to buy Teslas and thumb their noses at gas price increases.

The strategic objective must be to sell more Teslas.


 

 

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